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Exclusive: Carlyle Group in talks with Sunoco for Philly refinery: source

Reuters -- Private equity firm Carlyle Group LP is in talks with Sunoco Inc (SUN.N) to buy its 335,000 barrel per day refinery in Philadelphia, a person with direct knowledge of the matter said on Tuesday.

Oil markets are closely watching to see if Sunoco finds a buyer for the plant, one of three refineries on the U.S. East Coast that has been threatened with closure due to weak profits.

The loss of the Philadelphia plant - the largest of the three - could cause a shortfall in refined products in the region and drive up gasoline prices during the summer driving season unless a buyer is found by the July 1 deadline set by Sunoco.


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Submitted Apr 18, 2012 By: Mudsprings
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2012 5:59:36 AM

gordoM; rj is right. Keystone was never designed to help Americans - why would it pipe all the way to Houston from Canada if there are so many other facilities so much closer? Stop and think for a moment about that one..
honda0105
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2012 5:58:18 AM

still not going to do anything.
pbug101
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2012 8:32:24 PM

ok
rjhenn
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2012 6:46:50 PM

GordoM - "Oh, wait...present administration does not give permits for pipelines as it is election year. Looks like it is bye bye to jobs again and higher pump prices and imported gas for the east."

Funny, I hadn't noticed anybody trying to build a pipeline to the East Coast. The oil companies aren't interested in doing anything that might benefit the country. They'll make bigger profits by putting the screws to those on the East Coast and increasing gas prices in the Midwest too.

After all, that's the ultimate purpose of Keystone XL.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2012 10:27:27 AM

Good luck.
nb52
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2012 6:30:32 AM

Yea private equity firms. Much more efficient than government run investments.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2012 1:09:38 AM

Ok
GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2012 12:24:01 AM


Closure due to weak profits??? Of course with the bad economy everyone is driving less and staying home instead of going on vacation so gasoline demand is down. With lower demand the refineries are not as profitable so the oil companies want to close them. When they close a refinery it creates a shortage which drives up the price. When the price goes up everyone drives less and stays home... just a vicious circle that repeats.
DandyDapple
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2012 12:21:30 AM

Why aren't the refineries making money? ... Why should the middleman make all the $$$???
GordoM
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:58:53 PM

More pipelines to bring low cost western and Canadian crude east would keep the refineries in business and lower gas cost to east coast. Oh, wait...present administration does not give permits for pipelines as it is election year. Looks like it is bye bye to jobs again and higher pump prices and imported gas for the east.
NedW
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:57:21 PM

Do it.
defiancegasman
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:57:00 PM

Good
GBMAX
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:55:27 PM

ok
satrn38mpg
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:53:36 PM

good 4 them >>
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:51:19 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:49:13 PM

ok
jrsva
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:45:47 PM

“who cares?”

What a sad comment. I suspect that several tens of millions of people who live in the northeast would care if they were aware of the situation and knew that they were facing higher gas prices because of it. I don’t much care what Speedway does on a regular basis to affect gas prices in much of the Midwest but I don’t make smart remarks about it in the forums.

bowler360
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:41:04 PM

Sell it.
mstearno
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:38:39 PM

who cares?
sammy518
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:36:29 PM

OK
OGW
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:36:24 PM

If it does not pay for itself, the company cannot afford to keep it.
big_mac64
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:33:05 PM

we do not need another refinery closing!
tippybuddy
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:32:58 PM

still another scare...
chillyman3
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:32:16 PM

It's another media source that is being paid to scare the public. Scare public gas prices go up!
theschmuck
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:28:49 PM

Wold like to hear and read the whole story behind this mess from the start and hope that something may be resolved.
chillyman3
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:27:45 PM

weak profits? please!!! Gas companies are making record profits....CEO getting million dollar bonuses.

[Edited by: chillyman3 at 4/18/2012 11:29:37 PM EST]
Blue48
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:26:31 PM

GOOD LUCK ON THAT!
us4usa
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:25:46 PM

Here is my two cents...

1. The asking price is too high...
2. Cost to retool for cheap oil...
3. EPA codes for retool...
4. Need more tax breaks...
5. ALL THE ABOVE
6. SOLD
carman11
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:23:43 PM

JUST WHAT IS NEEDED ANOTHER REASON FOR PRICES TO KEEP GOING UP UP UP AND AWAY!!
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:21:53 PM

Ok.
fuelsaverMN
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:21:09 PM

Will that be good news for consumers??
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:21:06 PM

What does the Carlyle group sees that other don't?
ProRogue
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:21:00 PM


I find the rules of this game very confusing.

Refineries close because of.. weak.. profits..? I consider myself to be of average intelligence, but I cannot wrap my head around that.
Anyway, so a refinery closes. And then gas goes up. Whatever. But doesn't it also go up when a refinery is merely reported to have been threatened with POTENTIAL closure? Does it really go up any higher or stay high any longer when a refinery ACTUALLY closes?

I think I need a flowchart.
letterchunker
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:16:37 PM

Will it make a difference in the price of gas
radiorumor
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:14:48 PM

Maybe I need to buy a refinery
g747
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:13:42 PM

Somebody please buy it !!!!!!!!!!!.
DEG
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:11:34 PM

Hopefully the plant is sold. It is hard to imagine that the refineries aren't making exorbitant profits.
PizzaMon
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:10:56 PM

Sunoco is a Philly institution that cannot be allowed to die.
jessek
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:10:32 PM

Still find it hard to believe.
DustyHorse
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:10:10 PM

I hope they find a buyer.
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:05:06 PM

ok
kzrooster
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 11:00:59 PM

We can only hope they find a buyer.
JasonKY
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 10:49:38 PM

We need to alleviate the oil bottle neck! Some of the cost will go down if refineries get the oil they need at the right price and if there is enough refineries to make it competitive.
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 10:48:13 PM

Hope so.
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 10:43:27 PM

Anyone? Whay about Delta?
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 10:38:54 PM

GREAT
fajeff01
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 10:35:43 PM

Boy just when the Speed Channel was enhancing my interest in Sunoco here comes the Carlyle Group.

This is one of the few areas where white American men and Arab men walk hand-in-hand, skipping along like best friends, laughing at all the money they're making together. Yeah, thanks a lot wealthy Republicans for that anti-middle Eastern rhetoric that you guys think you're fooling the rest of Americans with. You only want war to make more money.
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 10:35:13 PM

Weak profits ???
bvrbill
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 10:33:44 PM

Let's hope they can keep the refinery operating. Big oil doesn't need another reason to increase prices.
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 10:30:03 PM

hummmm
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 10:26:40 PM

ok
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